The new editing experience: we're listening

[Jake Dunda]

Bump, need to be able to fill a page with information.

[eoin_kim]

Hi Team,

Please update regarding this issue. Thanks.

[Avinoam]

Hi all,

I'm happy to update that Full Width mode is now available as a toggle for all pages in the new editor. You'll find it to the right of the breadcrumbs when you're in the editor just above the page title.

Thanks,

Avinoam

[thomas_ohrbom]

Things are moving forward, and we are for the most part very happy with the new editor.

The major issues for us right now are the following:

1. We can now setup the page with a right or left sidebar. But table width does not scale correctly in sidebar columns! In the editor the tables will look perfect, with width adjusted automatically to fit within the column borders. As soon as we publish and go to View mode, the tables in the sidebar will have horizontal scroll bars! This makes it impossible for us to use sidebars, as we tend to very often add content in tables. Please fix this Atlassian! Vote for the issue here -> https://jira.atlassian.com/browse/CONFCLOUD-67336
2. The onboarding of new users have to be improved. We desperately need the ability to completely disable the Who's on your team? and Choose a space to work in steps when users login for the first time. Vote here -> https://jira.atlassian.com/browse/CONFCLOUD-41550
3. Macros do not render correctly (or at all) when viewing pages on mobile devices (using the Confluence App). This results in users not being able to view draw.io images etc on mobile devices. We understand this is being worked on, so we patiently wait for it to be resolved.

[Peter Kidson]

For anyone who has used the old editor,   the new one is just pathetic.   
Please have a setting so the user can choose which format to use.

[Jan Stähle]

Dear Atlassians,
First of all - The new editor is great! - it is much cleaner and the pages that are created are more streamlined across the whole organization, which makes the products within confluence much more professional. 

There is one function I would like to ask for. When you have text across multiple columns horizontally, it is aligned perfectly: 

When centering the second and aligning right the third column, these two are not aligned to the text in the first column.

It would be great if the text bricks would always align vertically, like in a table - this would  make sense from my perspective. It would enable to not use a table which looks better. What do you guys think? 

Best,
Jan

[Cameron LaBorde-Zank]

When is this going to be done? When is template editing/creation going to be final? Or do you consider this a final product because its shipped? Also why don't templates auto save? How do the features brought up during the atlassian summit that do not appear on your roadmap square with this open and honest policy? 

[Tony Halse]

We've just been moved to the new editor. I generate confluence pages using the REST API and would like to know if there is a way to control the page format. eg using the old editor, the tables were more readable because they held a lot of data but now they are squished into the middle of the page. Also, the width given to table columns has changed so now columns that do not really need as much space are given too generous an amount, making columns containing a lot of data far too tall. So to summarise:

1. Can you set full width for a page using the REST API?

2. Is there a way (using the API) to set the width of table columns to the minimum necessary for that column (ie the same as in the previous editor)

[Ricardo Clements]

This was posed on a negative thread in the community and adding it here as well...

Recently there was a Linkedin post by Atlassian about sunk cost fallacy and I wonder if its not exhibiting itself here... With all the negative commentary I have read over the last set of months, its difficult to believe that Atlassian is listening.

I believe many believe its not anyone at Atlassian who should be asserting what paying customers confluence sites look like.  Imposing a layout, removing tools to design layouts as desired is simply a disregard for your customer base.  Whomever is driving customer experience should be taken to task.  This is not Wordpress!

I have been watching the evolution of Confluence since very early on and progressively the tools to fully control how content is presented and ability to nuance structure erode with each successive release. First you introduced the Wysiwig editor (and kept the wiki markup (a la C2.com) but then you changed your storage format and too bad for those who liked wiki markup.  Then the macros slowly started to disappear..  etc. etc..

If the desire is to provide layout options to the user base that's one thing but forcing a single view and removing the ability to control layout and related tooling creates discontent for your loyal fans. Making it easier for some at the expense of removing tooling that has built a loyal fan base is a questionable strategy which could come back to haunt. 

[Peter Kidson]

If you are really listening.  KEEP THE OLD EDITOR TEMPLATE AS AN OPTION FOREVER

[Michael Lerman]

I like the new tables, one ask though, can you please add row reorder. Basically sometimes I'd like to move a row up or down within the table.

[Tony Halse]

The editor for our site has gone back to the old one. I automatically generate new confluence pages each day using the REST API so I now have pages with the new format for Aug28-Sep6 and the old format outside of that range. This is crazy! What's going on?

[Leon Cappel]

I actually arrived here after a week of "give feedback" actions, detailing how the basics like "not losing work" are missing when you have a spotty internet connection.

If you give people a feedback-button, it's nice to give them at least the idea that somebody actually cares about the time wasted by the product and by talking to a wall.

Summary: the editor experience sucks with spotty internet and loses work.

Thanks.

[Tiffany]

Hi Confluence fans! If you're interested in the new page viewing experience on mobile, check out this post!

[Justin Rinearson]

Is there anyway to turn on fixed width for column sizes instead of having everything be responsive? All my tables are wrapping text and are unreadable.

[Martin Ellis]

You have dropped the old 'create new page' option today in Confluence.

The create new page does not provide the same output as the old one.

e.g. Full screen tables are problematic.

Please re-instate the old create new page option. You can call it the 'classic new page'.

People need to have a choice. I am now having to copy old pages to get the correct functionality. This is even slower than before. This has been raised as an issue and ignored. 

[Patrick Nelson]

Copying my comment here as well; could someone please let me know when it's possible to have full width by default? Add me to the list of users who really don't like this new layout.

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Full width by default: That's what I'm here for. I just got thrusted into this "new" interface and, while I'm glad that full width is back (again), I'm pretty frustrated with having to constantly click every single time I create a new page. That's just a little annoying;

What's worse is if other developers go in to create documentation, they have to do this too. Otherwise, we end up with this crazy looking mashup of two different layouts, and it's not only cluttered looking but it's a little jarring. Not to mention that new layout doesn't look good as it's not properly aligned with anything.

[Christoph Kuhnke]

OMG - to this sounds so much like Atlassian made something worse and offers the user to waste his time by clicking "revert". That's weird, folks.

[Peter Natale]

The title of this page is hilarious. Let me make it clear, you are NOT listening. It is 9 months later and i am still find basic bugs (yes they are bugs, not feature requests) every damn day. I am wasting hours per week trying to figure out how to do what should be simple and i used to do easily only to find you took away the function and are ignoring the support tickets (or worse closing old ones and open new ones to meet KPIs..) Then i have to tell my user base 'Sorry... you cant do that anymore' and i lose another users support (and a UI fairy dies somewhere)

Let me give you some examples

* link to a page that doesnt exist - read that tickets comment logs and you can just see the hate drip off the page

* add an image from another page, or even an existing attachment to the page - Nope! Who would want to do that?

* link to another page - only if you went there recently! Otherwise you are out of luck!

This stuff is basic and saying we dont need it is an insult. The motto of Confluence should now be 'We nailed mediocrity!' Surely you cannot be proud of this product, but you can turn it around. Just stop the tap dancing, admit you screwed up and work with us. We WANT to help you, but you have to let us!

[Shaun Newman]

Can I get my companies Confluence back onto the old experience? This new experience is horrid and it is driving us nuts!!!

We have a page we just created that used page properties macros to pull information in for a report. In edit mode looks fine - ish but workable, in preview mode looks fine, publish and the font is HUGE and the columns uncontrollably size how they like and squash the data in two columns so it's totally unreadable!!! this is really not acceptable, we need to go back.

[Heidy Suwidji]

Hello - I cannot see the 'full-width' mode under my Editor. I believe we are on Server, not Cloud.

Can you please advise?

[Hale Xie]

Today, I worked on a confluence page and struggled with the new editor

1. I accidentally removed an image. I wanted to add it back from the attachment. I cannot do that in the new editor
2. I uploaded a small svg. The svg looks good in the editor mode. But the svg is huge when previewing the page.
3. I resized the svg. But the text in the svg became blocks.
4. I converted the svg to PDF and uploaded it to the page. But I cannot change the border and position of PDF. So the PDF looks bad in the page
5. I finally converted the svg to PNG and attach it to the page. In editor mode, the png looks good in 100%. But in view mode, the png has a different size: It is hug. I have to resize the png and lose some image quality.

[Karri Adkins]

Oh my, these posts are a little old, but all that I am seeing above there doesn't appear to be a fix for anything.

• I can't align a macro in a page layout section
• I can't select a full-width page layout.
• I can't move a page layout section added up or down.
• I can't add additional text outside a page layout section or it doesn't align with anything.
• I can't add text in between page layout sections, even if I could, it looks horrible b/c it doesn't align w/ anything.
• I can't place a macro inside anything to arrange my page.  Macros just kind of sit where ever.....

I'm so frustrated I want to tell my team to file word docs instead.  There is no flexibility, and this says there is more?  I can't find it.

[Kimi]

Hello @Avinoam 

• Is there any new updates and road-map for the Full width mode with the new editor?
• Our company is struggling to use the new editor due to the fact that there is no options for adjusting Table and content manually as we wanted. We need desperately to have the same option as the old editor where we can between Fixed or Responsive mode. Is there any workaround you can teach me? Cos I am not so good with coding/HTML
• When adding photo into a table, there is no way to adjust the photo/image size neither. Is there a trick to resize the photo in a cell/table?

The new Editor is clean and nice, but so poor features to select from. :(

Thanks in advance

[Ash Helm]

IT ISN'T FULL WIDTH!!! On a large 4 K monitor for a "Full Width" page I have approx 1/3 of the page vertical as white space that I cannot use. Both sides of the text I have these massive margins - its f***ing retarded. Atlassian don't you test this functionality when you build it? This is software development 101 stuff. Please stop calling this "Full Width" because its not & get your head out of your arse and start testing your work! Happy to discuss.