While editing a JSM service today I noticed that there is a new attribute named "Service type" which has four options in the drop-down menu:
I searched for documentation about this attribute but couldn't seem to find any. This is definitely a new attribute in the past three months or so (I rarely look at the Services list so I can't get more specific than that) and the Create a service documentation page doesn't mention it at all. There is no helper text in the dialog box either (like other attributes have):
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I want to understand the intent of this attribute, how Applications and Software services differ from each other and what Capabilities is supposed to indicate (as that one is seems arcane to me).
Any update on this
I am interested in the Atlassian definitions of the service types as this will make a real difference in how we configure ..
Wondering about 'technical' services as this is typical in ITSM Solutions
The doco on services is very light, and it's hard to know how detailed to go at the Serivices level vs. individual CIs (assets) that make up those services i.e. if this host or application is down, the payroll service is impacted...
Also having everything under 'Assets' is very confusing for people i.e. it's a Mix of Services and a CMDB/CI (where yes some/many of those are 'Assets" in terms of the true defn of assets e.g financial)
I'm also dealing with those same issues (mapping CIs to services).
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Hi @Rick Westbrock - we've rolled out service types to Services in Jira Service Management as the first step towards supporting a sync with Compass.
Compass supports a number of components, a subset of which we know are critical for customers using Jira Service Management for IT Operations (in particular, for incident and change management). So eventually software services, applications and capabilities will be synced across the two catalogs, allowing for easy usage of both JSM and Compass features.
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I forgot to add - we'll be updating our documentation to reflect this new addition. Apologies for the delay on this.
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Thank you for the details, I will admit it is disappointing that the documentation was not ready to publish when the feature was rolled out but hopefully it will be published soon.
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"Service Type" also isn't currently part of the data when selecting Export objects.
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any updates yet? would be really helpful since we are starting the concept for customer facing services integrated in our it-service catalogue enabling it-operations incident management triggered by customer service management.
@Rick Westbrock we used C4-documentation in order to grasp our it-complexity on a comprehensive level. on the context flight level we use applications and the elements of a container are most of the time services but we use different objects (applications, cloud resources) as well. hope this helps.
You'll find the documentation for C4 here: The C4 model for visualising software architecture
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Per: https://support.atlassian.com/jira-service-management-cloud/docs/what-is-services/ that
A type, which is used as a label to help categorise the nature of the service and has no technical impact on the service.
That's great that we can decide for ourselves what those labels mean, but it seems clear that someone at Atlassian had, at some point, come up with a "default" or "best practice" definition for these labels. It would be awful nice to let us customers in on this. Even if we decide to use them differently in the end, it would be nice to know what y'all were thinking.
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Maybe this will help? manage-your-services
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Thanks Jack, but like Rick, I've been through those pages multiple times, searched with lots of different terms to see if I can find what we need, but nothing. The section that talks about creating a service makes no reference to this drop down, so it would be great to understand its purpose, and what (if any) difference it makes to a service defined as a "Business Services" type or "Software services" type.
Any other suggestions? Does anyone use these fields and know what they do/are intended for?
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I have flagged the post to see if someone can point us to specific documentation should it exist. While I see Service type in the Create Service screen on one of my test instances I do not on another so likely a new introduction as there is a big push on ITSM of late.
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I found this in JSM Support: What are services? | Jira Service Management Cloud | Atlassian Support. In this document it describes the service attributes, among them
"A type, which is used as a label to help categorise the nature of the service and has no technical impact on the service."
In the following sentence they say, "How services work for you depends on how you want to use them – they’re designed to be customized to your needs."
So basically, it seems we can use those service types however we want, or not. They are only labels. Now the question is, can we define additional service types to be used in that dropdown?
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There is now a link for a documentation, which leads to nowhere. :(
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This is supposed to be the link: https://support.atlassian.com/jira-service-management-cloud/docs/synchronize-your-services-with-compass/
Vote here for the fix to get it corrected: https://jira.atlassian.com/browse/JSDCLOUD-15016 :)
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I'm starting to think this has been abandoned.
It's been months and the promised documentation is still missing.
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Yes, I'd like to know the differences between those types as well...
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I echo the concerns raised by others in this thread. Can Atlassian please provide definitions for the different Service Types? I would especially like to have clarity regarding Software Services vs Applications vs Business Services.
My reading is that this is an evolving feature based on what is being done around Syncing components from Compass with Services in JSM Assets. However there are only three component types on that page (service; application; capability), so what mapping is being applied? And if they should be in alignment, what is the plan for rolling out this fix? We don't really want to start using a feature that is in flux, so to speak.
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Based on my limited research, it seems that these Type labels were added for the benefit of people familiar with ServiceNow's Common Service Data Model (CSDM) and / or the ITIL Service based framework (or the TOGAF Capability based framework).
The general topic appears to be Enterprise Architecture (EA). It's complex enough that ServiceNow has a whole on-demand training course on it.
Based on what I've dipped by toes into, I think Atlassian is doing us a favor by saying, "they're just labels, do what you want with them". :-/
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We are also looking in parallel into TOGAF and are looking for a logical integration of the concepts into JSM, the option to define the usage of 'service type' the way we want is kind of ok, we just want to avoid unpleasant surprises going forward in case of a changing approach...
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